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Wils 1:39 Fri Dec 4
Mark Irwin, The Sun - hatchet job on WHU fans
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MARK IRWIN West Ham might issue new commemorative mug if they beat Man Utd, not that owners or fans will give Moyes credit for it
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Mark Irwin
4 Dec 2020, 10:46Updated: 4 Dec 2020, 10:46
IF West Ham beat Manchester United tomorrow evening, they will briefly rise to third place in the Premier League table.
Surely worthy of a place in the Hammers Hall of Fame considering they once issued a commemorative mug to celebrate victory over United’s reserve team in the Carling Cup quarter-finals.
West Ham issued a commemorative mug for beating United's reserves in the 2010 Carling Cup
Nothing Moyes achieves at West Ham will ever be enough for fans
This week marked the tenth anniversary of that, erm, unforgettable win.
It’s probably only Covid restrictions which prevented a gala reunion dinner for the East End legends Pablo Barrera, Victor Obina, Tal Ben Haim and Jonathan Spector.
After all, they still speak in reverential tones about the Boys of 86 and the time they finished behind Liverpool and Everton in the title race.
So Saturday night will surely go down as an ‘I was there’ moment for the first 2,000 lucky supporters to be readmitted to a Premier League game.
But then you remember that this is a club where the fans are never happy unless they’re banging on about the good old days of Mooro, the chicken run and the Kray twins.
And that’s when you realise that nothing that David Moyes and his players achieve this season will ever be enough.
No team has benefited from the absence of supporters during the coronavirus lockdown more than West Ham.
Arsenal might have the angriest fans in football, but they do most of their whining online.
West Ham followers prefer to get up close and personal when they’re dishing out the vitriol - or at least as close as they can get in their horrible new stadium.
Moyes won’t have forgotten his first spell in charge when one nutter attempted to plant a corner flag in the centre circle during a 3-0 home defeat by Burnley.
“I just felt I had to do something,” Mr Nutter later explained.
“People have died and been put up against a wall for what they believe in.”
And it’s logic like that which makes West Ham the impossible job.
The team was stuck in the relegation zone when Moyes was first appointed on a temporary basis to replace Slaven Bilic three years ago.
But comfortably keeping the club in the Premier League still wasn’t enough for the owners, who handed the ruins to mumbling Manuel Pellegrini and waited for him to work his magic.
Eighteen months later they were still waiting for the Chilean zombie to show any sign of life as his team sleepwalked their way towards the drop zone.
Moyes has created an ego-free team playing effective football this
Yet Moyes’ return to duty last December was still greeted with groans of disbelief and it is only now that his work is starting to receive grudging recognition from the locals.
It has taken time for the Scotsman to make his mark but he has gradually created an ego-free team playing effective football with bargain signings Jarrod Bowen, Tomas Soucek and Vladmir Coufal all to the fore.
He’s also brought a bit of passion back to the touchline with his old school back-up team of Kevin Nolan, Stuart Pearce and Alan Irvine.
So even though their best results this season were achieved when Moyes was in Covid isolation, no-one can question the job he is doing at the London Stadium.
Of course West Ham are not going to challenge for the title and they probably won’t even qualify for Europe.
But Moyes has still done more than enough to warrant an extension to the contract which expires at the end of the season.
Trouble is that the owners will probably wait to see if Zinedine Zidane or Jurgen Klopp fancy the job before committing themselves to a decision.
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Mr Kenzo
1:42 Fri Dec 4
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Can't argue with most of that, even if he does try too hard
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martyboy
1:53 Fri Dec 4
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Mark Irwin is a no stamp prick.
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Lato
1:54 Fri Dec 4
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It is in the Sun.......enough said!
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arsene york-hunt
1:58 Fri Dec 4
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Why would we have a celebratory mug, when we have beaten them for two yoears running at the London stadium why is this year different?
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The Mercernary
2:09 Fri Dec 4
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Just another in a long line of Sun columnists who, for some reason, seem to hate West Ham. I remember being fuming quite a few times with the old "Sadler gives it to you straight" rubbish, then Jonathan Howard was another who kept having a pop at us.
The loaded comment about the boys of 86 is a bit weird. Why wouldn't they be revered after our highest league finish? Is he really trying to say we shouldn't be complaining because we've never won the league?
Can only big team's fans complain about performances now?
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Lee Trundle
2:34 Fri Dec 4
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Preferred him as the small one in Take That.
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Mike Oxsaw
2:34 Fri Dec 4
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The media are still pissed off because we didn't seek their permission to sign Tevez & co.
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eswing hammer
2:37 Fri Dec 4
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"West Ham followers prefer to get up close and personal when they’re dishing out the vitriol - or at least as close as they can get in their horrible new stadium"
The very next line he talks about 'some nutter' planting the corner flag in the centre circle ... He wouldn't be complaining about the horrible new stadium by chance ?
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marty feldman
2:48 Fri Dec 4
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I wonder who Irwin supports . But as others have said the sun.have always had an agenda against West ham and their supporters . No surprise when the 3 parasites bought us they were always pushing there agenda in that shitrag.
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GreenStreetPlayer
2:50 Fri Dec 4
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Brady’s new initiative to get cash out of their customers pockets for GSB?
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Sven Roeder
2:50 Fri Dec 4
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Must admit I have never heard of Mark Irwin as a football journalist
Presumably they want people on the website or buying this dismal rag.
Bit sad really
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cholo
2:52 Fri Dec 4
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Weird article, first one I've read from the sun in years and I remember why now. Is it an attack on the club as well as the fans who he seems to blame for that alleged commemorative mug (which I have no memory of by the way)?
He might have actually made a point somewhere if he could've kept his bitterness in check.
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eswing hammer
2:52 Fri Dec 4
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Marty , he's Arsenal , probably a little bit pissed off at the moment that we are , like he's says temporarily 5th and above them . Most Arsenal fans l know are ok but they do have this condescending air about them .
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eusebiovic
2:57 Fri Dec 4
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Lazy article but typical of The Scum
Back in the day Emlyn Hughes got his chestnuts well and truly roasted for saying a few things about our board which turned out to be true.
Annoying knobhead though...
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Takashi Miike
2:59 Fri Dec 4
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ignore the cunts. even ones like the twat now in charge of talksport, who claims to be a west ham fan, allows pricks like jim white to have a pop
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marty feldman
3:03 Fri Dec 4
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Eeswing indeed they are .. Proper weird bunch are gooners fans..Someone should start a gofund page for them. must be terrible only winning the cup 4 times since 2014.
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Block
3:09 Fri Dec 4
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I thought it was quite funny, to be honest.
I'd rather be spoken about like this, than the cringe fest love in for the likes of Utd, Liverpool etc.
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eswing hammer
3:30 Fri Dec 4
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I always remember during the Falklands conflict, the container ship Atlantic conveyor hit by two Exocet missiles , the Sun just one day later managed to get an interview with the captain , a hero who told the complete story , the only problem was , he was killed in the initial attack , so it was all made up and they still do it today !
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Side of Ham
3:32 Fri Dec 4
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He's looking for bites to get himself a career, but he'll likely get a clump off some set of supporters he upsets in the future if he carries on, then he'll wonder why like Owen Jones......
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Far Cough
3:32 Fri Dec 4
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What position did the Kray twins play?
Actually, I thought it was quite funny
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